Процесс, который дал нам понимание комплексных чисел, связан с электромагнитным взаимодействием. Без привлечения комплексных чисел, мы не способны(или почти неспособны) записать правила движения токов, и электромагнитную волну. Отличие взгляда на эволюцию Вселенной, заключается в том, что когда то не существовало электромагнитного поля, не было зарядов электрических и не было фотонов. Затем мир преобразовался, появилось это взаимодействие, появилось правило комплексных преобразований. А современная догма, этот момент показывает как снижение плотности пространства до такой степени, что оно стало прозрачным для электромагнитных волн. Разница такова, - современные ученые считают, что 200 лет назад они жили, но были сильно сжаты в животах своих прабабок, так, что не могли пошевелится. Я же утверждаю, что 200 лет назад, они еще не родились, и даже не родились их родители, то есть не существовали совсем.

с чего это Вы взяли, что Ущеко (нормальный) ученый?

Vladimirovich, а с чего это Вы взяли, что Ущеко (нормальный) ученый?

Без привлечения комплексных чисел, мы не способны(или почти неспособны) записать правила движения токов, и электромагнитную волну.

Чушь.

Мои суждения не могут быть беспредметны, они могут быть осмысленны, и самое главное, они могут быть проверены. Есть возможности точно установить, прав я, или нет.
И ваше субъективное мнение, основанное на ином мировоззрении, не может быть судьей, ведь я предлагаю изменить мировоззрение, а вы критикуете меня с точки зрения своего мировоззрения.

И ваше субъективное мнение, основанное на ином мировоззрении, не может быть судьей, ведь я предлагаю изменить мировоззрение, а вы критикуете меня с точки зрения своего мировоззрения.

Я вот считаю, что Термодинамическая Квантовая Теория еще лучше

wpiter написал(а):Без привлечения комплексных чисел, мы не способны(или почти неспособны) записать правила движения токов, и электромагнитную волну.

Чушь.

Раньше я считал, что «ученый», - это самый умный человек, который все с полуслова понимает.
А теперь я считаю, что это самый хитрый человек, который плохо все понимает, но отлично это скрывает, и объясняет всем то, что и без его пояснений всем понятно.

But paradoxically, this is not the case. Since the Big Crunch will be accelerating everything southwards, a star to the south of B (near Zanzibar) will be moving faster southwards than a star slightly to the north. So in a contracting Universe, we may see stars and galaxies moving away from us in all directions! Which is exactly what Slipher and Hubble deduced from their observations of Doppler shift. Not only that but in our model, the further away the galaxy being observed, the faster it is moving away from us – just as in the observations. So our established belief that our Universe is currently growing may not be the case at all: we may be on the home run, and we’re all going to be crushed in the Big Crunch a lot sooner than we previously thought

комплексные величины значительно упрощают формулировки некоторых теорий, но не более того.

Без комплексных чисел модели были бы как минимум на одну размерность больше и у любопытных физиков (и математиков) появилась бы масса вопросов.

Более ошибочно не бывает - без комплексных чисел не было бы квантовой механики/реальности, комплексные числа суть буквально материальные

2. The cosmological red shift and a slowing of time

Any theory about the nature of the universe must, of course, agree with observation, not the least significant being Hubble's discovery of the cosmological red shift. In the widely accepted Big Bang model it should be noted that this red shift is caused not by the galaxies moving away from us through space, but instead by space expanding between the galaxies. The usual analogy is to imagine the galaxies themselves as being represented by dots on a sheet of rubber, which represents space. If the rubber sheet is then pulled outwards, all the dots move away from each other. The light waves from a far-distant galaxy are then said to expand in transit as they travel through this expanding space between that distant galaxy and Earth, thus bringing about the characteristic red shift.

As for this paper's hypothesis, it takes as its starting point two initial postulates. The first is the idea that the cosmological red shift can be explained if time everywhere in the universe were slower in the past than it is now. That is to say, all clocks, and therefore the frequency of light, were slower then than they are today. Moreover, the further back in time we go (by examining the light from ever more distant stars), the greater the slowing down of time and the frequency of light, and the greater the red shift. However, in this model, people like ourselves, living long ago near those distant stars, would not have noticed any reddening of the star's light at all, as the slowing down of the light's frequency would be in keeping with a general slowing down of time.

The second postulate is that all the constants of nature (e.g., the speed of light, the universal gravitational constant, Planck's constant, etc., as well as all other entities such as time, distance, mass, energy, charge, force, etc.) should continue to be measured as constant by the universe's inhabitants throughout all epochs, even though many of them might indeed be changing.

Abstract:

Galaxies are entities having rotational and displacing motion simultaneously, and their elliptical orbits share the same center. The universe is contracting, in other words, the volume occupied by the galaxies in outer space is decreasing. The galaxies travel on spiral trajectory acceleratingly, it means that galaxies “at the exterior of” Milky Way march forward the Mother black hole slower than Milky Way, and galaxies “at the interior of” Milky Way march forward the Mother black hole faster than Milky Way. This is why every faraway galaxies always march away from Milk Way, and travel away from each other acceleratingly. The distances between themselves, and between galaxies and the black hole at the center of Mother disc system of galaxies are decreased, and this phenomenon agrees with the gravitation’s existence in galaxy, thus, it is impossible to say that galaxies occupy more universal space. Consequently, Big Bang theory is found to be wrong as it did not question whether the universe starts from a place where we are unable to observe from the Earth currently, and it could not explain the origin the material that universe is made from, as well as the mechanism of the explosion, and which factors control the spontaneous expansion between the products of this explosion.

Universe in a black hole
Our Universe was contracting before bounce – from what?
Idea: every black hole produces a nonsingular, closed universe
Our Universe born in a black hole existing in another universe
• Idea not new (1970s)
R. K. Pathria, Nature 240, 298 (1972)
V. P. Frolov, M. A. Markov V. F. Mukhanov, Phys. Rev. D 41, 383 (1990)
L. Smolin, Class. Quantum Grav. 9, 173 (1992)
W. M. Stuckey, Am. J. Phys. 62, 788 (1994)
D. A. Easson R. H. Brandenberger, J. High Energy Phys. 0106, 024 (2001)
J. Smoller B. Temple, Proc. Natl. Acad. Sci. USA 100, 11216 (2003)
Simplest mechanism – torsion!

How to test that every black hole contains a hidden universe?

ам же предложен эксперимент по проверке теории Ущеко:

We consider the radial geodesic motion of a massive particle into a black hole in isotropic coordinates which represents the exterior region of an Einstein-Rosen bridge (wormhole). The particle enters the interior region, which is regular and physically equivalent to the asymptotically flat exterior of a white hole, and the particle's proper time extends to infinity. Since radial motion into a wormhole after passing the event horizon is physically diferent from from the motion into a Schwarzschild black hole, Einstein-Rosen and Schwarzschild black holes are different, physical realizations of general relativity. Yet for distant observers, both solutions are indistinguishable.

ерунда

The Contraction Of The Universe.

Cosmologists generally agree that if there is enough matter in the Universe it will expand for awhile and then contract. This is the closed Universe model. Gravity will slowly gain control of all matter. When it has, the universe will start to contract. How would that model progress?
This contraction would first be noticed in the home galaxy. Then the local group would start to move together. In the beginning of the Local Group’s contraction the Virgo Cluster would still be expanding, though at a reduced rate. In another few million years or so, the Virgo Cluster would start to move together, but the Virgo Super-Cluster would still be expanding, though at a reduced rate. Of course in real time the entire Universe stopped concurrently (or thereabouts), but because of the look back into time we can only observe the contraction within the number of light years since the contraction began. Before that time, it was still expanding.
In other words if the universe came to a dead stop 100 million years ago, what would we see now? Well, we should see our own Galaxy perhaps having a slight contraction. Our local group should be generally trending toward blue shift, though the proper motions of the bodies would ameliorate this to some degree. Our cluster would be a trifle into the blue. Our super-cluster would be red shifted but decreasingly so.
This is exactly the condition we find today. Our home galaxy is not expanding. In our local group: the Magellanic clouds are in the process of merging into the Milky Way, as are M42, M44, and M45 among a number of others.
The Andromeda Galaxy is closing on us, while also merging with M32, M33, and M110 amongst others. The entire local group is moving toward the Virgo Cluster. Which is moving toward the Virgo Super-Cluster. Which seems to be moving toward an area called the Great Attractor.
This meets all of the conditions for contraction of the closed model of the Universe. Why then would we still think that the universe is continuing to expand? It seems to me the reason for this is that it is less than 100 years since we found out there was any expansion. It was quite a shoocking discovery since everyone at that time thought the universe was stable. Even Einstein!
Since we were not around when the Milky Way was expanding, we didn’t notice it stopping. The same applies to the local group! We didn’t see it expanding so we think it was always gravity bound. We have never really dealt with the question of “Why isn’t space expanding between us and the other galaxies in the local cluster?” We just said they are gravity bound and let it go at that. Gravity bound is one of the first characteristics of a contracting Universe.
Occam’s razor say’s the simplest explanation that fits all of the facts is probably the correct one. I would sure like to hear another explanation that fits the facts, or to have my facts challenged. If I am barking up the wrong tree please let me know.

Re: А где про теорию сжатия Вселенной разговаривать?02.07.2011, 21:58
wpiter3
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Да, предлагаю.
Но ее упорно хоронят.
Я даже ряд схем экспериментов проработал, но ее все равно хоронят.
Снобизм у некоторых такой.

ABSTRACT
New precision in measuring extragalactic distances using supernovae has confirmed with high probability an accelerating increase in redshift with distance. This has been interpreted as implying the existence of dark energy in an expanding and accelerating, flat universe. A more logical explanation of these observations follows directly from an observation made by Erwin Schrodinger in 1939 that in a closed Friedmann universe every quantum wave function changes with spacetime geometry. Double the size of the universe and both the wavelengths of photons and the sizes of atoms double. When the evolution of atoms and photons are combined, the meaning of Hubble redshift is reversed. Redshift is characteristic of contracting universes. The magnitude-redshift curve for a contracting universe has exactly the accelerating form recently observed and is in excellent quantitative agreement with the data of Riess et al. 1998, Knop et al. 2003, and others. An observed maximum redshift of 1.3 gives a minimum age estimate for the universe of 114 billion years. The time until collapse is estimated to be 15 billion years or less.

Кстати, мне с самого начала было интересно, чем закончится наша дискуссия.Поехали по варианту, что wpiter в очередной раз совершенно обиделся на глупых оппонентов. Его право.Хотя эти оппоненты ему двухгодичный курс университетский вдолбили за это время....Здесь был самый гуманный и полезный для него форум.
И никакой благодарности. Одни вопли.

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Re: А где про теорию сжатия Вселенной разговаривать?02.07.2011, 21:58 wpiter3 Заблокирован
Появился: 21/05/11Сообщения: 19 Да, предлагаю.Но ее упорно хоронят.Я даже ряд схем экспериментов проработал, но ее все равно хоронят.Снобизм у некоторых такой.Надо же, 19 сообщений и все - забанили изверги

Сейчас ваше поведение изменилось, и каких то новых мыслей вы мне не приносите, благодарить не за что.