According to a team headed by Luc Montagnier, previously known for his work on HIV and AIDS, two test tubes, one of which contained a tiny piece of bacterial DNA, the other pure water, were surrounded by a weak electromagnetic field of 7Hz.
Eighteen hours later, after DNA amplification using a polymerase chain reaction, as if by magic the DNA was detectable in the test tube containing pure water.
Oddly, the original DNA sample had to be diluted many times over for the experiment to work, which might explain why the phenomenon has not been detected before, assuming that this is what has happened.
The phenomenon might be very loosely described as 'teleportation' except that the bases project or imprint themselves across space rather than simply moving from one place to another.
To be on the safe side, Montagnier then compared the results with controls in which the time limit was lowered, no electromagnetic field was present or was present but at lower frequencies, and in which both tubes contained pure water. On every one of these, he drew a blank.
The possible quantum effect – the apparent imprinting of the DNA on the water – is not in itself the most contentious element of the experiment, so much as the relatively long timescales over which it appears to manifest itself. Quantum phenomena are assumed to show their faces in imperceptible fractions of a second and not seconds minutes and hours, and usually at very low temperatures approaching absolute zero.
Revealing a process through which biology might display the underlying ‘quantumness’ of nature at room temperature would be startling.
Montagnier’s experiment will have to be repeated by others to have any hope of being taken seriously. So far, some scientists have been publically incredulous.
99% sure this is cross-contamination during the dilution. Very common with PCR reactions unless you are extremely careful. Rather reminiscent of Jacques Benveniste, no?
I am a biologist by trade, and I can say that this paper is very, very poorly done. If it was submitted to any major journal in the field, the peer reviewers would tear it to shreds. Here is the big experiment: 1) Take DNA and place it in tube #1 diluted around 1 million fold 2) Separate it from tube #2 containing all the building blocks of DNA, but not properly assembled 3) In between tube #1 and tube #2 is a special piece of metal 4) Subject the entire thing to low frequency magnetic field 5) There is an induction of the DNA to emit oscillatory radiation 6) DNA replicate magically appears in tube #2 from the building blocks I can buy the assertion that DNA at certain dilution transmits some strange radiation. It's step 5 to 6 that I think is complete and utter garbage. They don't do the proper controls for step 4 to 5. What happens when no DNA is present in tube #1? What happens when there is no inducing field? What happens when the building blocks are present in tube #2? They clearly know that this is an issue because they do the exact controls from steps 4 to 5. The synthesis of new DNA can easily be explained by one explanation: contamination. DNA sequencing techniques are sensitive enough to detect one or two copies of that sequence. If any of their reagents, tools, or lab members got even a single molecule of DNA on them and transferred it to tube #2, they would see that result. This is a basic fact that pretty much all molecular biologist learns (usually the hard way, by accidentally contaminating something of importance). To give the authors the benefit of the doubt, I'll go ahead and say they have successfully duped Slashdot with a hoax spoofing the claims of homeopathy.
1) Ultra Low Frequency Electromagnetic Waves (ULF 5003000 Hz) were detected in certain dilutions of ltrates (100 nm, 20 nm) from cultures of micro-organisms (virus, bacteria) or from the plasma of humans infected with the same agents (Fig. 2). Same results are obtained from their extracted DNA.
2) The electromagnetic signals (EMS) are not linearly correlated with the initial number of bacterial cells before their ltration. In one experiment the EMS were similar in a suspension of E. coli cells varying from 109 down to 10. It is an all or none phenomenon.
* His coil is too small to pick up ULF waves, rather it picks up magnetic fields varying at audio frequencies. There are plenty of natural and artificial sources that produce these and making a sensitive measurement is tricky.
* Filed strength is independent of the number of potential emitters - clear signature that they are measuring instrumental noise.
Winning a Nobel Prize does not give you a lifetime immunity from saying anything idiotic. It doesn't even prevent you from putting idiotic things into the arxiv. One might think there were a negative correlation between being smart enough to win a prize and stupid enough to say something idiotic in public, but the data suggests otherwise. Winning the Nobel seems to give some of these guys the confidence they need to make complete asses of themselves.
I am a particle physicist, and needless to say, the theory proposed in this paper is laughably stupid. The authors have no understanding of quantum field theory, and their observations are a sad combination of wishful thinking and poor experimental design.
I just read the original article, and it is not claiming quantum teleportation.
It is claiming that electromagnetic resonances are set up around polymers in water solution, and if the water contains the right building blocks (monomers), then the resonances can reconstruct copies of the original polymers. This apparently occurs even if there are physical barriers separating the polymers from the monomer solution.
The article relies on quantum mechanics only to the extent that certain quantum mechanical models of water molecule behavior (coherence domains) are used, since classical models that rely on energy levels are not sufficient. There is no claim of teleportation that I could see.
That's an interesting claim. Most of the DNA molecules would somehow have to be in sync to get audio-frequency waveforms out. How's that supposed to happen?
I can't speak for the physics, but the experimental setup seems bogus. See Fig. 1. They have a coil with a test tube inside it. The coil is connected to an audio amplifier and then to the audio input on a laptop, where some frequency analysis takes place. They claim that a solution of DNA in water emits signals which can be read by that setup.
A setup like that is enormously sensitive to any electric or magnetic fields in the vicinity, mechanical vibration, and even mechanical motion of conductive objects, like fan blades. Like most low-level RF experiments, something like that has to be conducted in a electrically and mechanically quiet area. (RF engineers use either RF-shielded rooms or wooden boxes/sheds in open fields.)
The history of polywater [wikipedia.org] is relevant here. There, it was for a while thought that water could somehow polymerize and change properties. It turned out to be a contamination problem. Here, the authors talk about previously unknown nanostructures in water.
Half the references are to papers coauthored by E del Giudice, himself a coauthor of the paper. Here is one of his works: www.isi.it/progetti/workshop-complexity09/pres_DelGiudice.pdf [www.isi.it], looks very much like the work of a crackpot. An he often is a coauthor of M Fleischmann of cold fusion fame. Also I do have some training in QED, but what those guys are writing looks like junk to me, and particular it looks much different to typical QED computations. Heaps of fancy words without meaning in between. How they got Montagnier to coauthor the paper escapes me.
99% sure this is cross-contamination during the dilution. Very common with PCR reactions unless you are extremely careful. Rather reminiscent of Jacques Benveniste, no?
Если бы имела место перекрестная контаминация, то наПЦРилось бы множество разных молекул ДНК, но в опытной пробирке была искомая ДНК последовательность только. С покойным Бенвенистом встречался, Скромнейший мужик был. Задолбали западные паулиты.
There is also an extensive theoretical work involving the notions of cyclotron frequencies and effects of ELF and VLF em fields on brain based on the new physics predicted by Topological Geometrodynamics and carried out during more than decade. The articles published in JCER give a concise summary of this work.
M. Pitk?nen (2010), TGD Inspired Theory of Consciousness. Journal of Consciousness Exploration Research, March 2010, Vol. 1, Issue 2, pp. 135-152. www.jcer.com/file/JCER_V1(2).pdf.
M. Pitk?nen (2010), Quantum Mind in TGD Universe,
Journal of of Consciousness Exploration Research| November 2010, Vol 1, Issue 8, pp. 971-991. Quantum Dream Inc.. www.jcer.com/file/JCER_V1(8).pdf.
M. Pitk?nen (2010), Quantum Mind, Magnetic Body, and Biological Body,
Journal of of Consciousness Exploration Research, November 2010, Vol 1, Issue 8, pp. pp. 992-1026. Quantum Dream Inc.. www.jcer.com/file/JCER_V1(8).pdf.
at tgd.wippiespace.com/public_html/articles/mont.pdf represents a model for how water could be able to represent biomolecules and genetic code based on the findngs represented in your articles. It will appear also in DNADJ journal.
Если вдруг по глупости Нобелевский лауреат захочет узнать, что это за учреждение Quantum Genetics Institute и наберет в Google, то ответ сразу определит Петра Гаряева в мусорный ящик...
In the normal mode descriptions of Schumann resonances, the fundamental mode is a standing wave in the Earth–ionosphere cavity with a wavelength equal to the circumference of the Earth. This lowest-frequency (and highest-intensity) mode of the Schumann resonance occurs at a frequency of approximately 7.83 Hz, but this frequency can vary slightly from a variety of factors, such as solar-induced perturbations to the ionosphere, which comprises the upper wall of the closed cavity. The higher resonance modes are spaced at approximately 6.5 Hz intervals, a characteristic attributed to the atmosphere's spherical geometry. The peaks exhibit a spectral width of approximately 20% on account of the damping of the respective modes in the dissipative cavity. The eighth overtone lies at approximately 59.9 Hz.
Observations of Schumann resonances have been used to track global lightning activity. Owing to the connection between lightning activity and the Earth's climate it has been suggested that they may also be used to monitor global temperature variations and variations of water vapor in the upper troposphere. It has been speculated that extraterrestrial lightning (on other planets) may also be detected and studied by means of their Schumann resonance signatures. Schumann resonances have been used to study the lower ionosphere on Earth and it has been suggested as one way to explore the lower ionosphere on celestial bodies. Effects on Schumann resonances have been reported following geomagnetic and ionospheric disturbances. More recently, discrete Schumann resonance excitations have been linked to transient luminous events – sprites, elves, jets, and other upper-atmospheric lightning. A new field of interest using Schumann resonances is related to short-term earthquake prediction.
Living systems cannot be thermal systems, but instead are coherent systems. The dynamic origin of coherence is discussed in the case of electromagnetically coupled particles. Permanent nonvanishing electromagnetic fields are shown to be present but trapped in the coherent systems. The dynamics of enzymes is sketched as an outcome of the coherent electromagnetic structure of living matter. The emergence of bound water is analyzed. Circulation of ions is shown to be driven by the Josephson effect. Ion cyclotron resonance briefly is discussed.
Quantum noise, entanglement and chaos
in the quantum field theory of mind/brain states
Eliano Pessa† and Giuseppe Vitiello††
†Dipartimento di Psicologia, Universit`a di Pavia, 27100 Pavia, Italy
††Dipartimento di Fisica “E.R.Caianiello”, Universit`a di Salerno, 84100 Salerno, Italy
INFN, Gruppo Collegato di Salerno and INFM, Sezione di Salerno
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Abstract We review the dissipative quantum model of brain and present recent developments
related with the role of entanglement, quantum noise and chaos in the model.
Quantum Dissipation and Information: A route to consciousness modeling Giuseppe Vitiello
Abstract
In the dissipative quantum model of brain memory recording is modeled as coherent condensation of certain quanta in the brain ground state. The formation of finite size correlated domains allows the organization of stored information into hierarchical structures according to the different life-times of memories and to the size of the corresponding domains. The openness of the brain to the external world (dissipation) implies the doubling of the brain system degrees of freedom. The system obtained by doubling, the Double, plays the role of the bath or environment in which the brain is permanently embedded. It is suggested that conscious as well as unconscious activity may find its root in the permanent dialogue of the brain with its Double
