Фотоны бывают разные, кроме того, что их много, так они еще и обладают разными характеристиками. Так вот, кванты электростатического поля отличаются по некоторым параметрам от квантов магнитного поля. И это называют фотонами электрического или магнитного типа.

Вообще то в постулатах Фантомной теории

Те вопросы кои освещает ППГ особенно это видно на нейронах просто связано с физической часть описания прохождения информации с помощью этих солитонных уравнений ( и он тут не одинок есть масса работ подтверждающих физику этих явлений как и на мышцах миокарда так и системой управления нервными окончаниями) Этот аспект нужнее для понимания возможности передачи обслуживающей информации таким способом.

Активность нейронов ...к солитонам ... отношения не имеет

The Soliton model in neuroscience is a recently developed model that attempts to explain how signals are conducted within neurons. It proposes that the signals travel along the cell's membrane in the form of certain kinds of sound (or density) pulses known as solitons. As such the model presents a direct challenge to the widely accepted Hodgkin-Huxley model which proposes that signals travel as action potentials: voltage-gated ion channels in the membrane open and allow ions to rush into the cell, thereby leading to the opening of other nearby ion channels and thus propagating the signal in an essentially electrical manner.

On soliton propagation in biomembranes and nerves
Thomas Heimburg* and Andrew D. Jackson

Abstract
The lipids of biological membranes and intact biomembranes display chain melting transitions close to temperatures of physiological interest. During this transition the heat capacity, volume and area compressibilities, and relaxation times all reach maxima. Compressibilities are thus nonlinear functions of temperature and pressure in the vicinity of the melting transition, and we show that this feature leads to the possibility of soliton propagation in such membranes. In particular, if the membrane state is above the melting transition solitons will involve changes in lipid state. We discuss solitons in the context of several striking properties of nerve membranes under the influence of the action potential, including mechanical dislocations and temperature changes.

Information transport by sine-Gordon solitons in microtubules

Elcio Abdalla, , a, Bouchra Maroufia, b, Bertha Cuadros Melgara and Moulay Brahim Sedra

Abstract
We study the problem of information propagation in brain microtubules. After considering the propagation of electromagnetic waves in a fluid of permanent electric dipoles, the problem reduces to the sine-Gordon wave equation in one space and one time dimensions. The problem of propagation of information is thus set.

Author Keywords: Information theory; Microtubules; Brain; Solitons

Solitonic effects of the local electromagnetic field on neuronal microtubules – tubulin tail sine-Gordon solitons could control MAP attachment sites and microtubule motor protein function

Abstract
The current wisdom in the classical neural net theory holds that the only direct action of the electric field in neurons is upon voltage-gated ion channels, which open and close their gates for ions. The intraneuronal biochemical activities are thought to be modulated indirectly either by the entering in the cytoplasm ions that act as second messengers or via linked to the ion channels enzymes. In this paper we present a novel possibility for subneuronal processing of information by cytoskeletal microtubule tubulin tails and we show that the local electromagnetic field brings information that could be converted into specific protein tubulin tail conformational states. Long-range collective coherent behavior of the tubulin tails could transmit solitary waves in the form of sine-Gordon kinks, antikinks or breathers along the microtubule outer surface and the tubulin tail soliton collisions could serve as elementary computational gates that control cytoskeletal processes. The biological importance of the presented model is due to the unique biological enzymatic energase action of the tubulin tails, which is experimentally shown to control the sites of microtubule-associated protein attachment and the kinesin transport of post-Golgi vesicles.

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Falsifications of Hameroff-Penrose Orch OR Model of Consciousness and Novel Avenues for Development ofQuantum Mind Theory1 Danko Dimchev GeorgievAbstract In this paper we try to make a clear distinction between quantum mysticismand quantum mind theory. Quackery always accompanies science especially incontroversial and still under development areas and since the quantum mindtheory is a science youngster it must clearly demarcate itself from the greatstuff of pseudo-science currently patronized by the term “quantum mind”.Quantum theory has attracted a big deal of attention and opened newavenues for building up a physical theory of mind because its principles andexperimental foundations are as strange as the phenomenon of consciousnessitself. Yet, the unwarranted recourse to paranormal phenomena as supportingthe quantum mind theory plus the extremely bad biological mismodeling ofbrain physiology lead to great scepticism about the viability of the approach.We give as an example the Hameroff-Penrose Orch OR model with a list oftwenty four problems not being repaired for a whole decade after the birth ofthe model in 1996. In the exposition we have tried not only to pesent critiqueof the spotted flaws, but to provide novel possibilities towards creation ofneuroscientific quantum model of mind that incorporates all the availabledata from the basic disciplines (biochemistry, cell physiology, etc.) up to theclinical observations (neurology, neurosurgery, molecular psychiatry, etc.).Thus in a concise fashion we outline what can be done scientifically to improvethe Q-mind theory and start a research programme (in Lakatos sense) that isindependent on the particular flaws in some of the existing Q-mind models.Key Words: Hameroff and Penrose Theory, OrchOR, objective reduction,quantum mind, microtubules, neuron, consciousnessNeuroQuantology 2007; 1:145-174Corresponding author:1 Danko Dimchev Georgiev Address: Laboratory of Molecular Pharmacology, Faculty of Pharmaceutical Sciences, Kanazawa University GraduateSchool of Natural Science and Technology, Kakuma-machi, Kanazawa, Ishikawa 920-1192, JAPAN, e-mail:dankomed@yahoo.com

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Revisiting the microtubule based quantum models of mind:tubulin bound GTP cannot pump microtubule coherence orprovide energy for computation in stable microtubulesDanko Dimchev Georgiev

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NEURONIC SYSTEM INSIDE NEURONS: MOLECULAR BIOLOGYAND BIOPHYSICS OF NEURONAL MICROTUBULES

Danko D. Georgiev1, Stelios N. Papaioanou2, and James F. Glazebrook3

Neurons are highly specialized cells that input, process, store and output information. Interneuronal communication is achievedin four basic ways: (i) Ca2+ evoked exocytosis with chemical neurotransmission, (ii) gap junction electrotonic coupling, (iii)secretion of neurosteroids, nitric oxide and derivatives of the arachidonic acid acting in paracrine manner, and (iv) cellular ad-hesive protein interactions with scaffold protein reorganization. Central structure integrating these anisomorphic signals is theneuronal cytoskeleton that is considered to be both sensitive to the local electromagnetic field and prone to intense biochemicalmodification. With the use of biophysical modeling we have shown that the local electromagnetic field interaction with neuronalmicrotubules could result in formation of dissipationless waves (solitons) of tubulin tail conformational states that propagatealong the microtubule outer surface. Soliton collisions may subserve the function of elementary computational gates and theoutput of the computation performed by the microtubules may be achieved by the energase action of the tubulin tails that controlmicrotubule-associated protein and motor protein attachment/detachment on the microtubule outer surface

The Soliton model in neuroscience is a recently developed model that attempts to explain...

The Soliton model in neuroscience is a recently developed model that attempts to explain...

Так что не думаю что идея очень уж нова.

Боюсь, что если стоять исключительно на позициях противников ППГ то можно пропустить массу интересных исследований, которыми между тем многие интересуются. И таким образом ожно безнадежно отстать.

Не беспокойтесь, разговоры на форуме не помогут ни отстать, ни обогнать.
А профессиональные исследователи в курсе

Я лично придерживаюсь другого взгляда.

Это Ваше право, но я бы не советовал

Я прислушаюсь к Вашим аргументам. Каковы они ?

Я прислушаюсь к Вашим аргументам. Каковы они ?

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